150th Anniversary Project
"Aogaku Mind Opening Up the Future"
The experience of being passionate about something you love is a treasure
|Teachers and Students|
Professor, School of Cultural and Creative Studies Department of Cultural and Creative Studies
Shinichi Fukuoka
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Aoyama Gakuin Elementary School
Haruki Ishida
Aoyama celebrates its 150th anniversary this year. In the liberal school spirit based on Christian education that has been passed down throughout its history, children and pupils are free to explore their interests and develop their individuality and creativity. Haruki Ishida, a third-grader Aoyama Gakuin Elementary School, is currently obsessed with insects. Professor Shinichi Fukuoka of Aoyama Gakuin University School of Cultural and Creative Studies whose childhood experience of being fascinated by insects was also the starting point of his career as a biologist, talks to us about what he has learned from insects and the significance of pursuing what you love.
Profile
Professor, School of Cultural and Creative Studies Department of Cultural and Creative Studies
Shinichi Fukuoka


Biologist and writer.
He has served as a researcher at Harvard Medical School and an assistant professor at Kyoto University, and is currently a visiting professor at Rockefeller University. He has published many books that explain in easy-to-understand terms what life is, including "Between Living and Non-Living Things," which won the Suntory Prize for Social Sciences and Humanities. He is also a Vermeer enthusiast and is known for his art-related writings and activities, such as "Vermeer: Kingdom of Light."


Aoyama Gakuin Elementary School 3rd grade
Haruki Ishida
When she was a child, she became interested in pillbugs because they were round, and that's when she fell in love with insects. During breaks and after school, she enjoys looking for and observing insects at school, and at home, she also tries raising various insects. She also grows plants that insects eat, such as mandarin oranges, Chinese hackberry trees, and black pine trees. Her dream for the future is to become an insect expert.

Before the Interview
For Ishida, Aoyama campus, including the school grounds of Aoyama Gakuin Elementary School is a field where he hunts for insects every day. On the day of the interview, Fukuoka-sensei also brought his own bug net and enjoyed hunting for insects together with Ishida.

We immediately discovered a butterfly in the schoolyard.
"At school, we often see butterflies such as skippers, columbine butterflies, cabbage white butterflies, and swallowtail butterflies," says Ishida.

We also took Professor Fukuoka to the Japanese garden adjacent to the school grounds.
"I often go looking for insects here too," says Ishida.
"There seem to be a lot of insects. That must be a good place." (Professor Fukuoka)

Ishida successfully collected a small white insect that had recently caught his eye.
"Oh, what is the name of this insect? Look it up and let me know. It might be a new species!" (Professor Fukuoka)
TALK THEME
1st TALK
"We are from insects
What should I learn?
"Thinking about other lives
An insect that lives altruistically.
It makes us reflect on our human greed."

My dream is to become an insect expert. Aoyama campus is in the city center, but it's full of greenery and there are many different kinds of insects, so it's fun. Sometimes we see insects that live in the forest, such as rhinoceros beetles and giant green hairstreaks. In the elementary school, we are required to write a diary, and every day I end up writing about insects, such as the insects I found that day and the insects I'm raising at home.

Ishida

Professor Fukuoka
I read it. For you, insects are the most interesting and important thing right now. I can understand your feelings because when I was a child, insects were all over my head.
Professor Fukuoka, why did you become interested in insects?

Ishida

Professor Fukuoka
When I was about Ishida's age, I raised swallowtail butterflies as a summer vacation research project. I collected eggs, and after a while, when the larvae emerged from the eggs, I raised them on tangerine leaves, and the larvae molted several times, turning from black to green, and then becoming a pupa. So I wanted to know what was happening inside the pupa. It was cruel, but I opened the pupa. Do you know what's inside a pupa?
It's become mush.

Ishida

Professor Fukuoka
Yes. The larvae had no shape and had turned into a black, sticky liquid. I was so surprised that I couldn't help but wonder, "How did this turn into a butterfly? What was in that black, sticky liquid?" Then, I left the other pupae alone without opening them, and eventually a swallowtail butterfly emerged from them. At first, its wings were crumpled, but gradually they grew straight, and it became a magnificent swallowtail butterfly and flew off into the sky. This dramatic transformation from larva to pupa to butterfly filled me with surprise and curiosity about the mysteries of nature and life, and the power to be deeply moved by nature, in other words, a "sense of wonder." This triggered my desire to learn more about insects, and I began my research.
How did you conduct your research?

Ishida

Professor Fukuoka
When I was a child, we didn't have the ability to search for information on the computer like we do today, so I would first read picture books and learn about Japanese insects, noting, "There are these insects, and there are those insects." Once I had acquired this knowledge, I would actually look for those insects in nature. I also raised swallowtail butterflies from eggs and kept records of my observations, such as how much leaf the larvae ate and how many days the pupa period lasted.
You know that butterfly larvae have their favorite leaves, and won't eat anything else, depending on the species. Swallowtail butterflies like tangerines and pepper, but I didn't have a large enough yard to grow those trees at home, so I had to find them somewhere. This was difficult. I found a tangerine tree at someone else's house and was quietly picking the leaves, but the person in the house found me and got angry. I was in a difficult situation, so I asked my mother for advice, and she went with me to the house and asked me to share my tangerine leaves. So the next day, I was able to get tangerine leaves with confidence.
I also raise swallowtail butterflies, and recently I discovered something about their emergence. Of the 30 or so I was raising, there was one pupa that took nearly a year to emerge. So I researched why it took so long with my dad, and we came to the conclusion that this one pupa was emerging at a different time than the others, so that the swallowtail butterflies wouldn't become extinct.

Ishida

Professor Fukuoka
That's a great idea. It makes sense that there are individuals with slightly different growth cycles mixed together so that they don't all die out at once in the event of a natural disaster. In the past, oddballs that were born by chance had an advantage in surviving, and those characteristics have continued to this day.
In experiments and research, you won't find anything unless you do a certain amount of work, so it's important that Ishida observed 30 pupae. I also think it's great that his father is thinking about it with him. I hope you'll make various discoveries in collaboration with your father.
Is there anything we can learn from the biology of insects?

Ishida

Professor Fukuoka
There are many things we can learn from insects. Among them, I would like to tell you two things today.
First of all, we mentioned earlier that each butterfly species has its own diet. For example, the common machaon eats parsley and carrot leaves, while the musk swallowtail eats horsetail, which grows in riverbeds. And this is not limited to butterflies; many herbivorous insects that feed on plants limit what they eat. This shows that insects are good at dividing up nature. In other words, insects do not take everything for themselves, but live altruistically, thinking about other life forms. It makes us reflect on our human greed, believing that all other life forms are there for us and trying to get everything we have.
Secondly, when we observe a single insect, we realize that its life is connected to the whole of nature in many ways. For example, fireflies. Firefly larvae eat shellfish. Shellfish eat algae. If the stream is not shallow and clear with plenty of sunlight, no algae will grow and no shellfish will be found. Currently, rivers throughout Tokyo are underground channels, or culverts, but if they go underground and the surface of the flowing water is not visible, fireflies will no longer be able to grow. That is how nature is connected.
One time, something like this happened. I was trying to save a bee that was caught in a spider's web, but the bee stung me. Because bees die when they sting their enemies, my actions not only killed the bee, but also destroyed the web, causing trouble for the spider, and I also felt pain. I think it taught me that forcibly interfering with the natural world will not produce anything. These things I learned from insects as a child are still the basis of my view of life and nature today.
2nd TALK
"Immerse yourself in what you love
What is the importance of becoming?
"The experience of questioning something and trying to figure it out is
It will enrich your life in an incredible way.”

Today I brought along a specimen of my favorite insect. It's a blue long-horned beetle called the blue spotted long-horned beetle. Have you seen one before?

Professor Fukuoka

Ishida
This is the first time I've seen it. It's beautiful.
When it's alive, it's a much more vivid blue. When I first encountered the real thing in the mountains, I was so moved that I felt like I was in heaven. I'm drawn to the color blue. This interest grew so much that I later began to study the Dutch painter Vermeer. Vermeer was someone who used beautiful blues in his paintings. When you find one thing you like, it will lead to one new thing you like.

Professor Fukuoka

Ishida
I started researching plants that insects like and became interested in plants.
Use insects as a starting point to explore nature. Your world will expand and it'll be fun.

Professor Fukuoka

Ishida
What is important to become an insect scientist?
First, cherish your questions. Second, try to pursue those questions. Third, try different ways of looking at things to discover what's hidden. These three points are the secrets of scientific research. All of nature's secrets are hidden, so it's important to try to see what can't be seen. If you try to think about things from different angles, you can see all sorts of things. Ishida-kun already has a keen observational eye even though he's only a third-grader, so cherish that and continue your explorations by carrying out various experiments and trying new things.

Professor Fukuoka

Ishida
Thank you very much. Please give a message to the students studying at Aoyama.
I think that everyone has at least one thing that they enjoy doing. Please continue to love that thing. I happened to like insects and became a biologist, but it's okay if what you like doesn't directly lead to your career. If you like something and are passionate about it, it will lead to various things such as researching, actually going there, experimenting, listening, and looking closely. I believe that the experience of questioning something and trying to solve it will definitely be useful in whatever profession you choose in the future, and will enrich your life to an amazing extent. Please pursue what you like to the fullest in this school filled with a free atmosphere.
First, Ishida-kun, please try to find out what the white insect you just collected in the schoolyard is. This is your homework. There are probably many species of insects that have yet to be discovered, so if you look carefully on a daily basis, you might actually discover a new species.

Professor Fukuoka

Ishida
I'll look into it as soon as I get home. Thank you.


After Interview
Talking with Professor Fukuoka - I found a cotton beetle with the insect professor -

Mr. Fukuoka is a kind teacher who knows a lot about insects. Mr. Fukuoka brought a cool insect net and caught insects with us at school. It was a lot of fun. At that time, I caught a fluffy, white insect like snow in the elementary school's Japanese garden. I often catch insects in Japanese gardens, but this was an insect I had never caught before.
After catching insects, I talked with Professor Fukuoka. Professor Fukuoka taught me some very important things to become an insect expert in the future. He told me that it is important to concentrate and have the ability to distinguish differences. I would like to use this knowledge in my future insect catching and observation.
Professor Fukuoka gave us homework about the snow-like insects we caught that day, saying, "Try to find out what they are called later." When we got home and looked them up, we discovered that the white insects were a type of aphid called cotton bugs, and that they grow wings and fly around when it gets cold and winter approaches. The maples in the Japanese garden were bright red and very beautiful, but the insects told us that winter was just around the corner. Thank you so much, Professor Fukuoka, for catching bugs with me and teaching me so many important things. (Ishida)