150th Anniversary Project
"Aogaku Mind Opening Up the Future"
Cherish the excitement,
Carving out a path to a new life that challenges the international community
| Alumni and Graduates |
Ministry of Foreign Affairs
Reiko Shimane
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Aoyama Gakuin Senior High School
Yoshina Setada/Rina Isshiki
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Faculty School of International Politics, Economics and Communication Department of International Politics
Hina Hiramine
Aoyama will celebrate its 150th anniversary in November 2024. Many graduates have developed a global mindset and a wide range of world-class skills, and are contributing to society all over the world. This time, we welcomed Shimane Reiko, who, despite experiencing setbacks in high school, went on to study at Aoyama Gakuin University College of Literature, and then passed the bar exam and the national exam type 1, and is now a diplomat working at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. We asked Setsuda Yoshina and Isshiki Rina from Aoyama Gakuin Senior High School, and Hiramine Hina from Aoyama Gakuin University, all of whom have a dream and goal of becoming active in the international community in the future, about the work of a diplomat, what you need to do to get an international job, and the mindset required in the international community.
Profile
Ministry of Foreign Affairs
Reiko Shimane
2006 Graduated College of Literature Department of English Letters
During high school, he repeated a grade twice and dropped out. He then passed the University Entrance Examination (University Entrance Qualification Examination) and entered College of Literature Department of Department of English Letters, Aoyama Gakuin University Gakuin University. After graduating, he went on to Waseda University Law School and passed the bar exam in 2010. He joined the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in 2011, serving in the Economic Affairs Bureau, Latin America Bureau, and Asia and Oceania Bureau. At the same time, as his life's work, he continues to give lectures and give talks to the younger generation, thinking together about the future of Japan and the world. His books include "High School Diplomat's Guide to Understanding International Affairs from Scratch!" (Fusosha).
Aoyama Gakuin Senior High School 2nd Year
Setsuda Yoshina
Having lived in Germany as a child and having visited many countries in Europe, he knows that there is a world different from Japan. His dream is to become someone who can connect people, connect foreign countries and Japan through culture and technology, and develop both countries into better countries. He aspires to be a diplomat. He is a member of the basketball club.
Aoyama Gakuin Senior High School 3rd year
Rina Isshiki
He has been studying at Aoyama since junior high school. In September of his second year at high school, he participated in the preliminary round of the All Japan High School Model United Nations Championship, and became interested in the refugee issue that was on the agenda. In the future, he wants to work in a position where he can contribute to solving international issues. He plans to enter School of International Politics, Economics and Communication at Aoyama Gakuin University University in April. He is also working hard to improve his English skills, with a view to studying abroad during his time at university.
Third year student, Department School of International Politics, Economics and Communication Department of International Politics and Economics
Hina Hiramine
After learning about poverty in the Philippines during a high school program, he became interested in international politics. From the second semester of his second year at university, he spent a year studying abroad at Universit? de Gen?ve in Switzerland, home to an important UN base. He is currently trying to determine what he really wants to do, aiming to become a person who can play an active role internationally.
TALK THEME
1st TALK
"Diplomats and International Civil Servants
What are the differences and similarities?"
"I want to be friends with everyone,
The courage to get close to the other person is essential for both sides."
I am happy to meet all of you today, all of you who have an international perspective and are seriously considering your future. This marks my 12th year working at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, and I have been involved in diplomacy with Latin American countries and the Asia-Pacific region. Please feel free to relax and ask any questions.
Shimane-san
Isshiki
My goal in the future is to find a job that contributes to solving international problems. When I look into jobs related to international cooperation and development on the global stage, I find that in addition to diplomats, there are also international civil servants. What is the difference between them?
The difference between a diplomat and an international civil servant is an important perspective to consider when considering your career path.
First of all, diplomats are representatives of a country and work for that country. I am a Japanese diplomat, so my mission is to work for Japan as a representative of Japan. On the other hand, international civil servants refer to staff who work for UN agencies such as WHO (World Health Organization), UNDP (United Nations Development Programme), and UNICEF (United Nations Children's Fund). They do not belong to any country, and work for the world, so to speak. The focus of their activities, in terms of "who they work for," is different.
There are also differences in the specific hiring process. Diplomats are hired by the Japanese government. There are three types of diplomats: general, Ministry of Foreign Affairs specialist, and general. In principle, those with a university degree or higher are eligible to take the exam for general and specialist positions. The future of a diplomat varies depending on the position, such as general positions, which allow you to gain comprehensive experience in a variety of jobs, and specialist positions, which allow you to delve deeper into a specific country or language. I didn't have a specific field that I wanted to work in, so I chose the general position, hoping to gain a variety of experiences. If there is a specific country that you want to be involved with forever, I think it would be a good idea to choose a specialist position to become a specialist in that country.
On the other hand, international civil servants are recruited by various UN agencies. To work at the UN, you basically need a master's degree from graduate school and work experience as an immediate asset. One thing to note is that the contract period is often two years, so you have to find a new job after two years. So, I think it's tough in terms of stability. So, if you want to become an international civil servant, I recommend that you "have a skill in your hand." In fact, many people who work at the UN have qualifications such as lawyers and doctors. You can return to your previous job after the contract period is over, so there is no need to worry about the two-year limit. I myself wanted to work at the UN when I was in college, so I wanted to get a lawyer's license and worked hard until the bar exam.
Shimane-san
Isshiki
So, what are the common requirements for diplomats and international civil servants?
Language skills are of course important, but I think both require a desire to become friends with anyone, regardless of nationality, and the courage to approach others without hesitation. Working in the international community doesn't just involve negotiating across a table in a conference room. Sometimes it's also necessary to open up and talk honestly over a cup of coffee. I think it's very important to want to talk to people and become friends with them, no matter what country they're from.
Shimane-san
Setsuda-san
Is it true that not everyone who becomes a diplomat can go abroad? I've heard that most of the men who go abroad are big and strong-looking.
Regardless of gender or physique, everyone can definitely go. I think you will spend about half of your life overseas. There used to be few female diplomats, but now nearly half of new graduates are women. Of course, you need a certain amount of physical strength to work overseas. But what's more important is the person's thoughts and words. Gender doesn't matter where you're posted either. There's no reason why you have to go to a difficult country just because you're a man.
I am currently on childcare leave, but when I return to work, I think I will go overseas. When that happens, I will be worried about what to do with my husband and children. But if you think about it, this is not just a concern for women, but men should be too. Nowadays, it is normal for women to work, so when a man is posted overseas, everyone worries about what to do with his wife. In that sense, I feel that the differences between men and women in the workplace are gradually disappearing. In the world of female diplomats, there are many cases where husbands temporarily quit their jobs to become househusbands, and I think there are various ways to overcome this.
Shimane-san
Hiramine-san
What have you found to be good about being a diplomat so far, and what have you found difficult about it?
To be honest, there are many times when I feel like it's tough (laughs). But sometimes there are moments when I think, "I'm really glad I chose this job."
For example, at Christmas in 2016, I accompanied then Prime Minister Abe on his visit to Hawaii. In Hawaii, I met with then President Obama and paid tribute to the victims of the attack on Pearl Harbor. At the ceremony, elderly military veterans who were victims of the attack were in wheelchairs. When I saw the scene of Prime Minister Abe and President Obama embracing these elderly soldiers, I felt a sense of reconciliation after 70 years between Japan and the United States, who had fought so fiercely in World War II, and my heart was warmed. At that moment, I thought, "Only a diplomat can witness such a historic moment."
Of course, there are times when my private life is sacrificed. For example, when I was working at the Latin America Bureau, one Saturday I was about to go out and play when the news came in that Cuba's Fidel Castro had died. When an important person in the country I'm in charge of dies, I have to send a condolence telegram, so I canceled all my private plans and rushed to work. It's true that there are times when I have to respond to sudden situations. There is tension and pressure every day, but I feel that the experience I get out of it is also great.
Shimane-san
Hiramine-san
Has anything changed about you since becoming a diplomat?
When I give a lecture, there is one question I always ask: "Do you think Japan is a small country? Or a big country?" What do you think? When I ask this question, about 90% of people answer, "Japan is a small country." Before I became a diplomat, I also thought the same way. With so much gloomy news out there, it can't be helped, right?
However, when you go outside of Japan, your perspective changes. Many countries in Asia and the Middle East trust Japan. The United States also seeks Japan's opinion, saying, "Let's ask Japan about Asia first." When you go outside of Japan, you realize how much influence Japan has on the world. So after becoming a diplomat, I began to think that "Japan is a big country." And I began to love my country even more than before. So, I think that the job that only I can do is to tell stories that will make young people proud of being Japanese and have hope for Japan's future through lectures and writing.
Shimane-san
2nd TALK
"When I was a student
What should I do?」
"What would happen if I got this job?
Will you become yourself?
Simulation to clearly visualize the person you want to be.
I am planning to enter Aoyama Gakuin University in April. In order to realize my dream of working in the international community, could you please give me some advice on which second foreign language I should choose?
Isshiki
Shimane-san
The more people who speak the language, the more options you have. Then, it might be a good idea to think about what kind of country you want to be involved with. If you're interested in Africa, choose French, which is widely used there, or if you like the Latin vibe, choose Spanish. Chinese has the largest population in the world, but it's only understood in China and parts of Southeast Asia, so you'll probably end up working in a job that has to do with China. What kind of culture do you like? What kind of people from what countries do you want to talk to? It's a good idea to choose a second foreign language while valuing your own honest interests.
If you talk about the system in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, diplomats are assigned one language to specialize in. They say, "You should study French," "You should become an Arabic expert," and so on. In my case, it was Spanish.
Shortly after joining the ministry, you will be sent to the country where the language is spoken, in my case Spain, for a two-year study abroad program. The purpose is not only to acquire a high level of Spanish language skills, but also to learn about the history, culture, and politics of Spanish-speaking countries by living among the local people. Spanish is the official language in Spain and 20 other countries and regions in Central and South America, and the number of people from Latin America, known as "Latinos," is rapidly increasing in the United States, so you can hear Spanish as often as you hear English. There are 500 million Spanish speakers in the world. The importance of Spanish in the United States will continue to increase in the future, and I'm really glad that I was able to learn Spanish. I also recommend it because the pronunciation is so-called katakana pronunciation, which is very simple.
When I first studied abroad in Geneva, I struggled with how to communicate with the locals. How was it in Spain?
Hiramine-san
Shimane-san
Spain is a free country in many ways. For example, even if there is a line at the supermarket cash register, the cashier is talking to someone on his cell phone. However, no customers criticize it, and strangers are chatting with each other while waiting. It's unthinkable in Japan. I was confused at first, but after staying there for two years, I gradually assimilated with the Spanish people and became easygoing and took everything in stride. In fact, when I came back to Japan, I felt a gap and wondered, "Why is everyone so uptight?" (laughs).
I'd love to hear what you think people should have done while they were students. Also, is there anything that you regret not doing?
Isshiki
Shimane-san
One thing I regret is not studying abroad* while I was in school. Some people worry that studying abroad will delay your graduation, but once you enter society, no one will care about a one-year delay*. Not only will it improve your language skills, but unlike traveling, learning about the world while living in a place is a lifelong asset. You can also take advantage of the university's scholarship system, so I definitely recommend giving it a try.
Also, even though job-hunting has become commonplace in this day and age, I think job hunting is really important. Even if you change jobs, you will always be asked about your previous job. When you visualize the person you want to be, it's a good idea to simulate what kind of person you would be if you got that job. Personally, I placed importance on reaching out to my network and listening to as many stories as possible from people who are in that job. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs has an internship program, and there are also internship support programs at international organizations. I think you have the time and environment to do this during your student years, so I think it's a good idea to try something like a simple work experience even while you're a student.
* Aogaku has a credit recognition system and other programs to support students studying abroad and graduate from university in four years.
Please check the link for details.
I am currently job hunting. I have been advised by alumni that self-analysis is important, but when it comes to actually doing it, I am no longer sure of what I want to do. How did you find your vision and direction for the future?
Hiramine-san
Shimane-san
Instead of getting caught up in difficult words like "self-analysis," I think it's better to think about "What do you do that excites you?" When I was a student, I loved going abroad. I was very excited when I saw the scenery of unknown places from the airplane window. So I thought about getting a job that would allow me to go to many different countries.
I don't think you need to do in-depth self-analysis just because you're job hunting. That's because you won't know if a job is your calling until you actually try it. No one can say with confidence at around 20 years old, "I am this kind of person, so this job is my calling!" Many things happen even after you get a job. If you get a job and find that it's not for you, then you can just go down a different path. I think it's a great idea to just try doing something that excites you without thinking too deeply. But instead of just thinking about it, try to think seriously, "I can continue to be excited about this job!"
3rd TALK
"On the international stage
What is the shining Aogaku image?
"The Other that Aogaku have
A compassionate heart,
Good relationship with people from other countries
It's also important for building relationships."
Hiramine-san
What is something that you consider important when you are thinking about taking action?
I guess it means "never give up, never quit halfway". When I was in high school, I quit halfway. I know that I am where I am now because of that past, but I honestly regret quitting high school. So I don't want to repeat the same thing.
When you become a diplomat, there are many things you have to learn from scratch, and it can be tough at times. For example, I thought I was an expert on Spanish-speaking countries, but one day I was put in charge of the comfort women issue with South Korea. It took a lot of perseverance to understand where the differences in historical perception between Japan and South Korea came from and why such a problem still exists. But I can't explain to others what I don't understand, so I studied hard.
I also had to start learning Spanish from scratch, so it was quite difficult. In the apartment I lived in in Spain, even the bathroom walls were covered in Spanish sticky notes, which surprised my roommate.
While I was studying for the bar exam and even after becoming a diplomat, there were many times when I wanted to give up, but I am working hard, determined not to give up like I did in high school.
Shimane-san
Setsuda-san
I belong to the basketball club. I know that it's better for me to study and practice at my club activities with 100% effort than to do it with 50% effort, but when I'm sprinting, I feel like slacking off in the middle of the game. How do you get through that?
If you experience a sense of accomplishment and success, thinking, "I'm glad I tried my best!", you'll probably feel motivated to try harder again next time.
Speaking from my own experience, when I graduated from Aogaku, I thought it was almost a reckless challenge to go from College of Literature to law school and get a lawyer's license. It was my first time studying law, and studying for the bar exam was so difficult that I almost gave up many times. There were days when I didn't understand the assignments for the next day's class at all and stayed up all night. People often say that staying up all night or cramming is not good, but when I felt like giving up, I started to think, "I worked so hard that day, maybe I can do it a little more." So, even at law school, if I thought, "I'll study hard until the end of this month," I would think, "I managed to work hard this month," and if I thought, "I'll work hard until the final exam of this semester," I would think, "I managed to work hard this semester again." By repeating these small goals, I was able to finish the race to the end. It's like a marathon. If you work hard at what's in front of you, thinking, "I'll work one more meter," or "I'll run one more kilometer," you will surely reach the goal.
By the way, I am really glad that I passed the bar exam. I think that qualifications are "wings to live freely." Even at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, I work freely without worrying too much about promotion or evaluation. I can do that because I believe that even if I lose my place in this organization, I can make a living as a lawyer. I believe that having something solid, whether it be a language or a qualification, gives you freedom in life. That's why I am really glad that I didn't give up back then and worked hard.
Shimane-san
Isshiki
What do you think is good about Aogaku? I would like to ask Mr. Hiramine, a senior at Aoyama Gakuin, and Mr. Setsuda, a junior at Aoyama Gakuin. I have been attending Aogaku since junior high school, and I feel that it is a place that values the independence of students.
Hiramine-san
I was interested in overseas countries more than anything, so I think the strong support for international programs and study abroad is attractive. Looking back, I was selected as a representative for the high school visit program to the Philippines, and the experience of learning about the Philippines led to my interest in international politics, and after entering university, I visited the International Center many times to receive advice on studying abroad. After consulting about scholarships, I was able to receive a JASSO (Japan Student Services Organization) scholarship, and the financial support was also great.
Setsuda-san
I've been attending Aogaku since I was in high school, and I feel that the good thing about Aogaku is that the school provides a supportive environment for students who are independent and can find and take action on various systems and programs. This is why I've come to think that I should not wait, but should raise my hand myself.
Also, since there are many students who have had diverse experiences different from mine since they were young, I feel like the broad perspectives and ways of thinking of my friends are giving me new insights.
Everyone is able to act independently and with freedom.
I think Aogaku is a place that cultivates the mindset that will be a strength in opening up new worlds. As Hiramine-san says, Aogaku study in an overwhelmingly international learning environment, so they will surely be able to step into an international setting with courage and approach foreigners without hesitation.
I also feel that the influence of my exposure to Christianity, which is practiced in many countries and regions, at Aogaku is being put to good use in my diplomatic work. Compassion for others is important for building good relationships with people from other countries. In diplomacy, the interests of two countries may clash and cause disputes, but it is necessary to understand, acknowledge and forgive the other party at some point, and move forward based on that, and I think the mindset I acquired at Aogaku is still with me today. So, be confident, think outside the box, and pursue what moves you to make your dreams come true.
Shimane-san
Isshiki
Setsuda-san
Hiramine-san
thank you very much.
After Interview
What hints did the three people who aim to succeed in the international community find in Shimane's story to get closer to their dreams?
I want to believe in great possibilities and improve myself without giving up.
In the past, when I didn't want to do something or felt uncomfortable about it, I would sometimes feel like I was small-minded, but when I heard that Shimane had also wanted to give up studying for the bar exam and diplomatic career many times, I felt a sudden sense of relief. With Shimane's words, "I wanted to quit many times, but I didn't give up," in mind, I will believe in the great possibilities and do my best. I also felt a strong desire to try to acquire my own weapons that will make me feel okay. In order to pave the way for my own happiness with the people around me, I will work to improve myself without overthinking or trying to act too grown-up. (Setsuda)
Learning about other cultures helps me see the world with new perspectives
I was impressed by the fact that Shimane-san has been working for many years as a diplomat, a job that sometimes requires prioritizing diplomatic duties over private life. I feel that what he said about gaining a skill that allows you to have freedom is very true, and I will keep that in mind. I also feel that no matter what job I end up doing in the future, it is important to know the cultures of many countries in order to contribute to peace in the international community. As a first step, I would like to study a second foreign language. I think learning a new language helps me to think from the perspective of others who are different from myself and see the world from a completely different perspective. (Isshiki)
Accepting differences and valuing coexistence
Hearing that after becoming a diplomat and looking at Japan from the outside, he found it to be much larger than he had imagined, made me think that in addition to thinking about things from a step outside, I want to have a flexible attitude and mindset that allows me to accept new aspects of things when I discover them. I was also very impressed that Shimane-san has become who he is today because he has considered his own feelings and acted with an eye to what the future holds. I want to make it a priority to look at how I feel now and think about who I will be in the future. In order to get closer to my ideal future of working globally and doing work that benefits others, I think it is important that I open my heart to accept differences and have an attitude of coexistence, so I would like to have many conversations with many people and gain a variety of experiences. (Hiramine)

