No. 314
Posted on 2024/9/26

150th Anniversary Project
"Aogaku Mind Opening Up the Future"

Pursue what you want to do,
Keep moving forward

| Alumni and Graduates |

Asahi Shimbun Publications Co., Ltd.
Naoko Koda

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Faculty of Law
Department of Human Rights

Soya Takagaki

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School of Cultural and Creative Studies
Department of Cultural and Creative Studies

Yamabe Nene

This year, Aoyama celebrates its 150th anniversary. Numerous graduates have carved out their own careers in various fields based on the learning and encounters they had while in school. In this issue, we interview Ms. Naoko Kokufuda, who switched from the industry where she graduated to the publishing industry without giving up on her dream, and is now on her way to becoming an editor. Kanano Takagaki and Nene Yamabe, members of the "Newspaper Editorial Board" who work on the production of "Aoyama Gakuin University Newspaper," interview Ms. Kokufuda about how to be mindful in the job of conveying information, what she learned at Aogaku, and how to have the mindset to realize her dream.

Profile

Asahi Shimbun Publications Co., Ltd.

Naoko Koda

1999 Graduated from the Department of Japanese College of Literature Department of Japanese Language and Literature

Deputy General Manager of the Media Production Department at AERA Digital Headquarters. Editor-in-Chief of University Rankings and Deputy Editor-in-Chief of AERA dot.
After graduating from Aoyama Gakuin University, she got a job at an insurance company. However, unable to give up her publishing career, she quit and took a part-time job as an editorial assistant at Asahi Shimbun Publications. After working at a publishing company and as a freelance editor and writer, she joined Asahi Shimbun Publications in 2013. She is currently mainly involved in education-related media. During her university days, she was active in the ski club "Silny Ski Enthusiasts Club."

Faculty of Law Department of Human Rights 3rd year
Member of the Newspaper Editorial Committee

Soya Takagaki

Graduated from Tokyo Metropolitan Kitazono High School

She is currently exploring her future career options, hoping to find a job that will allow her to influence people's hearts and society through her writing and photography. Her experience working part-time as a cram school instructor has also given her an interest in the field of education. She also writes novels as a hobby, and is devoting herself to studying not only law but also the history of science, in order to be able to understand the way others think and see things from a broader perspective.


3rd year student School of Cultural and Creative Studies Department of Cultural and Creative Studies
Chairman of the Newspaper Editorial Committee

Yamabe Nene

Graduated from Tokyo Metropolitan Ryogoku High School

In the future, she hopes to work in a field that gives people the strength to live and supports their mental health, and is aiming to work in entertainment production such as theater, or in a job that conveys information through writing. Currently, she is fully involved in the activities of the "Newspaper Editorial Committee," and is learning the knowledge and examples necessary to widely communicate something to others through classes such as Professor KUSHELL, Michael 's seminar, "Music and Psychology," "Art Therapy," and "International Cultural Exchange."

TALK THEME

1st TALK

"As an editor
What is your motivation?”

"I hope that the articles I write and the books I create will be useful to someone.
I hope this will be a catalyst for even a small change in society for the better."

Yamabe-san

We are working in the "Newspaper Editorial Committee" which publishes the "Aoyama Gakuin University Newspaper", which reports on news about Aoyama Gakuin University University and the activities of organizations and individuals. In the future, I would like to work in a job where I can communicate something through writing. When you were looking for a job, why did you want to work for a publishing company?

One of the reasons I decided to major in Department of Japanese Language and Literature was that I was deeply moved by Japanese literature such as Natsume Soseki's Kokoro and Mushanokoji Saneatsu's Yuujin during my high school years, which became the starting point for my pursuit of a career in publishing. After graduating, I wanted to become a literary editor, and since I read a lot of magazines at the time, I wanted to work at a general publishing company where I could also be an active magazine editor. However, I took a detour to get to where I am today, and I didn't enter the publishing industry immediately after graduating university and continue working there.

Koda-san

Takagaki

Is that so? I'd like to hear more about it.

Looking back, I think my motivation for wanting to become an editor at a general publishing company was too vague. I searched hard for a job, but unfortunately I couldn't get a job at the publishing company I wanted. So I decided to first get a stable job and then focus on what I like, such as creating a literary zine* in my free time. I then took the employment exam for an insurance company and was able to get the job.

During my first work experience, I enjoyed my work and was blessed with good people, and I realized how much of an impact work and work environment have on one's life. That's why I had a strong desire to do what I'm most interested in and what I love. I left the insurance company after a year and a half and started job hunting again, aiming to become an editor.

*Booklets created by individuals or small groups using free methods and themes

Koda-san

Takagaki

So you changed jobs and became an editor.

I have built my career by changing my position and working style, from part-time to freelance to full-time. With each new job I gained experience, I found new goals and moved on to the next step.

The biggest turning point for me was when I started working part-time as an editorial assistant at the Asahi Shimbun Company after my first job search didn't go well. I was fascinated by the way reporters interviewed people and disseminated information, and the information they shared could sometimes have the power to move or change society. This was the trigger for me to switch my focus from literature, which I had been interested in, to information magazines.

At the age of 26, my wish came true and I was able to join a publishing company that handles information magazines. I felt a sense of urgency, as it had already been a four-year detour from the average person who joined as a new graduate. However, when I later became a freelance editor and writer, my connections from my part-time job introduced me to a job at the weekly magazine "AERA" published by Asahi Shimbun Publications, and my encounters with the people at Asahi Shimbun helped me achieve my dream of working in the publishing industry. These connections and experiences have led me to where I am today, and are invaluable.

Another experience was a turning point in my life. I worked for about six years at a company led by musician Takeshi Kobayashi. There, I became deeply involved with AP Bank, a general incorporated association established in 2003 by Kobayashi, Kazutoshi Sakurai of Mr.Children, and the late Ryuichi Sakamoto. Using revenue from music, AP Bank launches various projects with the theme of a sustainable society. I was in charge of putting their philosophy and activities into words and widely communicating them. This was a time when the Great East Japan Earthquake occurred, and energy policies and values toward the global environment changed dramatically throughout society. Through my work at AP Bank, I developed a strong desire to "contribute to creating a society where everyone can live better." I then decided to focus on "information disseminated to society," and I have continued to do so to this day.

I am currently the editor-in-chief of University Rankings, an information magazine that comprehensively evaluates Japanese universities. Education is closely related to society, and thinking about education means thinking about the future of society. My current theme is to understand society from multiple perspectives and commit to it through the production of books on education.

Koda-san

Yamabe-san

I think it takes a lot of courage to step out of a comfortable and stable place of work. Is there any secret to moving on to a new environment without regrets?

I was determined not to quit because of negative feelings like "it's hard" or "I can't do it." When starting something new, it's natural that the first hurdle is high. If I can't overcome that hurdle and learn something that I can say "I learned this here," then wherever I go next, it will be the same. It's important to see it through until you feel like "I want to take another step and try something different."

Koda-san

Yamabe-san

I sometimes find the task of re-reading and revising the manuscripts I have written to be a lonely and difficult one. What do you find joy and motivation in your work?

I still remember the excitement I felt when I first saw my name on the colophon of a book for sale in a bookstore. That was the first step for me. Now I hope that the articles I write and the books I produce will be useful to someone and will be a catalyst for even a little change in society for the better. Closer to home, there is a junior editor who used books published by Asahi Shimbun Publications as a reference for taking the university entrance exam, and then went on to have a fulfilling university life at her university. She joined the company because she wanted to work for a publishing company that had influenced her life. We were really happy when we heard that, and everyone in the editorial department was overjoyed.

Koda-san

Takagaki

Even though I thought I knew a lot about the clubs and circles at our university through my work on the Newspaper Editorial Committee, I still discovered new things and was often surprised when I actually covered them. These discoveries are the moments I enjoy the most.

The joy of discovery is the best part of interviews. I always do thorough research beforehand to make my interviews more fulfilling, but if I go into an interview with an image of what the finished manuscript will look like, it will be half as fun. I believe that manuscripts are valuable because they contain information that can only be learned through interviews, so when I interview, I listen carefully to what the other person has to say, think about it, and try to have a back-and-forth conversation so that I can elicit deeper words. When I get new information by keeping my antennae up, I feel like saying, "I did it!" to the readers at the other end of the line.

Koda-san


2nd TALK

"What did you learn at university that is useful to you today?"

"Think about it from multiple perspectives.
This is something I always value, whether I'm doing an interview or writing a manuscript."

Please also tell us about your university life. How do you feel that what you learned in Department of Japanese Language and Literature College of Literature is helping you in your current job?

Yamabe-san

Koda-san

I still remember that when I was in high school and I first became interested in literature, I picked up a university guide for Aogaku University and it said, "Reading literature means reading the era, and knowing people's lives objectively will definitely be useful in your life later on." I resonated with these words and thought they would help me in any job, so I joined the Nagato Takeshi Seminar (commonly known as the Dazai Mishima Seminar) to study modern literature at university. In the seminar, I focused on author theory, researching questions such as "Why did this author write this work in this era?"

Through my studies in the seminar, I feel that a switch was created in my thinking to consider things from multiple perspectives, that is, "This is what I think now, but people with different historical backgrounds, positions, and attributes may not think the same." This way of thinking has always been important to me, whether I'm interviewing or writing articles. The tagline for "University Rankings" is "Let's look at universities from various angles," and it is based on this idea.

Currently, I am in charge of the "desk" Position, which involves compiling manuscripts written by editorial staff, and here too, a multifaceted perspective is required. Since the way information is presented varies depending on the personality of each writer, manuscripts can sometimes end up in a completely different direction than what we had imagined. However, there is no "right answer." In overseeing editing, I try not to push my own policies too hard, but to learn from others' perspectives with an open mind so that I can create something good.

I have been in a seminar that studies music culture since my second year. Since we are a group of music fans of various genres, the stories of my classmates are very interesting and inspiring. What kind of experience did you have, Mr. Koda?

Yamabe-san

Koda-san

That sounds like an interesting seminar! When I was in high school, there was no one around me who shared my love of literature, so after entering university, I really enjoyed meeting and talking with friends who shared my interest in "books" but had a slightly different perspective than me. During university, you can spend a very intense time concentrating on what you love. I envy Takagaki-san and Yamabe-san, who are enjoying that time now.

Did you participate in any club activities?

Takagaki

Koda-san

I was a member of the university's official "Silny Ski Enthusiasts Club" and was serious about skiing. I had always been an indoor person in the humanities, so I decided to try sports at university. People who may not have met in classes at each faculty gathered together, discussed things, and managed a club while maintaining a balance. Through club activities, I experienced a new sociality for the first time that I had not had in my previous friendships. Even after graduating from university, I feel that this experience has been very useful in a company where people with various values are present.

Mr. Koda, I believe you have visited universities all over Japan. Based on that experience, what do you think is the appeal of Aogaku?

Takagaki

Koda-san

I have the opportunity to visit many universities now, and I feel that the location and campus environment have a big impact on students. I spent the first two years at the Atsugi campus (which existed at the time), and the third and fourth years at the Aoyama campus. There weren't many shops around the Atsugi campus, so I spent all my time with my friends on the campus lawn or in the cafeteria between lectures, and naturally made more friends. On the other hand, Aoyama campus is located in Sibuya / Aoyama area, a center of culture and information, so I think I naturally became sensitive to trends just by commuting to school. I think the general public has the image that "Aogaku" is "fashionable," but I feel that people grow closer to that image as they become more aware of the environment they are in and the expectations and evaluations of those around them.
Ever since I was a student, I have had the impression that Aogaku was a diverse, globally open university. There were strong cross-departmental connections across departments, and the environment was bright and open. I think that learning in such an environment has also given me the ability to see things from various angles. That's another thing I like about Aogaku.

I really empathize with that. Each of us has our own interests, and we acknowledge each other by saying, "Oh, I see. That's interesting, too," and I feel like we're able to maintain a comfortable distance from each other every day.

Yamabe-san

Koda-san

Universities are extremely important as a place where students can develop the skills they will need when they enter society. I believe it is no exaggeration to say that "if universities change, the world will change." I would be happy if I could help bring about change in society by widely communicating the appeal of universities, which is difficult to see from the outside.


3rd TALK

"To make my dreams come true
What is important?”

"Don't give up, don't be negative.
Sometimes changing your approach can open up new possibilities."

When I look back at the application forms I wrote for job hunting, I get anxious and wonder "Does what I wrote here really represent who I am?" and I lose track of what kind of person I am. Do you have any advice?

Takagaki

Koda-san

It's natural to want to present yourself in a good light if you want to be hired. Everyone has their own feelings about "how I want to be" and "how I want to be evaluated," and I think that in itself is a part of that person's personality. So you can rest assured that the "image of the person I want to be" that Takagaki-san wrote after giving it so much thought is exactly Takagaki-san himself. It would be a good idea to read it over from time to time and keep it in mind at all times. By doing so, you will gradually become the person you are.

Even though you have built up a solid career, do you ever feel overwhelmed by anxiety or get depressed?

Takagaki

Koda-san

I was anxious every time I changed jobs, and even now I'm always anxious, wondering, "Will I be able to meet the deadline?" or "Is this editorial policy okay?" (laughs). Even just uploading one article to a website makes me very nervous and takes courage. You can't afford to make a mistake, and these days there's a risk of something going viral. But it's important to always be cautious when sharing information, and even if you've built up a career, you shouldn't forget to feel anxious - in fact, I think it's important.

We may feel down from the various things we face every day, but it is at times like these that it is effective to change the angle of your thinking. For example, when someone shows you unreasonable anger, try to think objectively, "Why is this person so angry? Let's try to think from the other person's point of view to see what the cause is," and this can help you get out of the confused state of "What should I do?"

Finally, what do you think is important for us to find our dreams and make them come true?

Yamabe-san

Koda-san

First of all, think about what you really love. By thinking about what kind of work would suit you and help you realize what you love, you will be able to see the path you should take.

When I was a student, I also worried a lot about my future, and my job hunting didn't go as I had hoped. When I first became a freelancer, I struggled to find work, but at the time, I was cheerful and positive. The important thing is not to give up and not to be negative. Instead of thinking, "This isn't for me," I would change my mindset and think, "Maybe the timing wasn't good," or, "Maybe I'm not compatible with this company."

In my case, my main focus was "editing work," but sometimes you can find a way by coming up with a creative approach without changing the focus of what you want to do. Look closely at what you like and keep a positive mind that won't give in to failure.

I was really encouraged. Thank you for today.

Yamabe-san

Takagaki

After Interview

What hints did the two get from Mr. Koda's talk about how they can plan their future careers and realize their dreams?

Take on challenges throughout life and make your dreams come true

During my job hunt, there were times when I lost sight of myself, but talking with Koda helped me realize that this was a valuable worry that arose precisely because I was at a crossroads in life. Also, hearing about his journey of continuing to do the work he loved in whatever form, I realized that rather than everything being decided by finding a job, I wanted to look beyond that and pursue and achieve my dreams throughout my life. I would like to continue to learn ways to make dreams come true from various people, acquire my own way of thinking, and live a university life that I can look back on as "a very intense time," before spreading my wings and taking off into society. (Takagaki)


I want to keep thinking about what I love without giving up

When you start thinking about finding a job, you can be concerned about public opinion and stability, but I was encouraged by Kokuda's attitude and words, who has overcome many challenges and is now thriving in his current job, and decided not to give up on what I love and to keep thinking about my future. He said that even if you work professionally, there is always tension and anxiety when uploading an article, and that this is an attitude that you should never get used to and should continue to have, and I will keep this in mind as I continue to work on the Newspaper Editorial Committee. I was also impressed by how his experience of mastering what he loved during his university days is still alive in his current way of thinking. Rather than being fixated on only what is necessary for the future, I would like to make use of my free time while I am a university student to gain a variety of experiences. (Yamabe)

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