No. 340
Posted on 2025/03/10

150th Anniversary Project
"Aogaku Mind Opening Up the Future"

I want to convey the joy of discovering the unknown and improve Japan's technological capabilities through research and education.

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Associate Professor, Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry, School of Advanced College of Science and Engineering and Engineering, Waseda University
Ayumi Ishii

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Graduate Graduate School of Science and Engineering Department of Science and Engineering, Electrical and Electronic Engineering Course, 2nd year doctoral student
Eri Hashimoto

In 2024, Aoyama will celebrate its 150th anniversary. Many of our graduates have gone on to play an active role in a wide range of fields, building on the knowledge and experiences Department of Chemistry and Biological Science while College of Science and Engineering. Miki Hasegawa Professor Ishii Ayumi, who studied under him and is currently an associate professor in the Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry at Waseda University's School of Advanced College of Science and Engineering and Electrical Engineering and Electronics Course the Graduate Graduate School of Science and Engineering Engineering at Waseda University. As she is about to start job hunting, Ms. Hashimoto is worried about her career development. We asked Professor Ishii about the secret to juggling childcare and work after experiencing different environments at both the company and the university, her approach to research, and her dreams for the future.

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Associate Professor, Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry, School of Advanced College of Science and Engineering and Engineering, Waseda University

Ayumi Ishii

2008 Aoyama Gakuin University Graduate School Graduate School of Science and Engineering Ph.D. in Science and Engineering (Aoyama Gakuin University)

Aoyama Gakuin University College of Science and Engineering After graduating from the Department of Chemistry, he entered the graduate school of the University and obtained his Ph. D. degree in the laboratory of Miki Hasegawa. After working as a researcher at the Advanced Materials Laboratories of Sony Corporation, he served as an Assistant Professor at the Graduate School of Engineering, Toin University of Yokohama, Aoyama Gakuin University College of Science and Engineering Department of Chemistry and Biological Science Assistant Professor, JST* "PRESTO" researcher, Project Lecturer at the Graduate School of Engineering, Toin University of Yokohama, and Associate Professor at the Faculty of Life and Environmental Sciences, Teikyo University of Science before assuming his current position in 2023. He received the Adachi Award from the Rare Earth Society of Japan in 2023.
*National Institute of Science and Technology Agency

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Eri Hashimoto

Graduated from Tokyo Joshi Gakuin Private High School

After watching the movie "The Wind Rises," she became interested in manufacturing and entered the Department of Department of Electrical Engineering and Electronics because she wanted to learn skills that could be used in a wide range of industries and society. In addition to enjoying research, she thought that the elements of being a woman, a science major, and a PhD would be useful for her career development, and with the support of the doctoral student support project "AGU Future Eagle Project (FEP)," she decided to enter the doctoral program. She is currently enrolled in the Shinji Huang Laboratory, where she is conducting research on a carbon material called graphene. She was selected as an FEP encouraged student and is deepening intellectual exchanges with students from various research fields through workshops and other events.

TALK THEME

1st TALK

"How is your career going in both the corporate world and the university world?"

Thanks to my experience in corporate development, I was able to conduct basic research.
I became more conscious of the need to make things into something.

After completing your doctoral course at Aogaku, Professor Ishii worked for a company before moving to Waseda University, where you now have your own research lab as a professor. What did you study at university?

Hashimoto

Professor Ishii

At Aogaku, I was a member of the first class of the laboratory of Professor Miki Hasegawa in the Department College of Science and Engineering (now Department of Chemistry and Biological Science) in the Faculty of Science and Engineering. At that time, I was attracted to the photochemistry of complexes using a group of metallic elements called rare earths, and I devoted myself to researching rare earth complexes until I completed my doctoral program.

As a first-year student starting from scratch in setting up a lab, it must have been difficult at first as research progressed slowly.

Hashimoto

Professor Ishii

I don't think it was too difficult, but since I didn't have any seniors to ask about things I didn't understand, I actively read a lot of books and papers to improve my knowledge, and at the same time, Professor Hasegawa gave me careful advice and guidance on everything from the basics of how to conduct research to writing my doctoral thesis, and I was able to carry out my research with his help.

At that time, students in College of Science and Engineering studied at the Atsugi Campus in their first year and at the Setagaya Campus from their second year, but when I was in my fourth year, the campus moved to Sagamihara City. The move was a lot of work, but at the same time, it was a rare and valuable opportunity to move research and experimental equipment.

Professor Hasegawa, who has many connections with researchers from other universities and research institutes through collaborative research, offered me the opportunity to continue my research during the move, and I was given the chance to temporarily go to Hokkaido University to conduct research for a few months. During that time, I used a high-speed emission spectrometer that can sequentially observe the emission of molecules at the picosecond level for the first time, and measured a rare earth complex that I had synthesized. For the first time, I was able to capture the transfer of energy from organic molecules to metal ions within a molecule. When I saw the data results, I was shocked. I had originally been considering going on to a doctoral course at graduate school, but this experience was the deciding factor in my decision to continue.

It was a very valuable experience. I also enjoyed research, and it made me want to go on to graduate school and continue my research in a doctoral program. However, it is generally said that people who obtain a doctorate are at a disadvantage when it comes to finding a job, so my parents were very worried about me. In that situation, the FEP system, which allows me to devote myself to research without financial worries and provides support for career development, etc., helped me convince my parents.

Hashimoto

Professor Ishii

It's really good that such a system exists. However, I think there are still many people who don't know about it, or who are hesitant to continue to graduate school due to financial or career reasons. So, in order to let people with such concerns know about it, I think it is important for graduate students who are using this system, like Hashimoto-san, to clearly appeal to them what kind of experiences they have had and what kind of support they have received. Rather than from faculty, it would be best for students to talk to each other and share real information, encouraging those who are considering continuing to a doctoral program.

Yes, I'll do my best! Professor Ishii, after graduating from graduate school, you got a job at a company. Did you ever think about continuing your research at a university?

Hashimoto

Professor Ishii

In Professor Hasegawa's laboratory, I was immersed in research aiming for unknown discoveries, but at the same time, I was able to gain experience in guiding junior colleagues and how to manage a laboratory. And above all, I saw Professor Hasegawa leading the laboratory with a smile even in difficult times, and with a bright and powerful attitude, so I definitely dreamed of having my own laboratory in the future. However, after researching rare earth elements for a long time, I also felt that I could not see how I could contribute to society. I felt like a frog in a well, and I thought that I could not continue like this, when a researcher from Sony Corporation (hereinafter Sony) contacted me through Professor Hasegawa about starting a new project. So I decided to go outside the university for a while and think about what society wants and what I can do, and decided to join the company.

What kind of things were you working on at Sony?

Hashimoto

Professor Ishii

I was involved in research to develop imaging elements (semiconductor sensors that convert light into electrical signals) using organic molecules. I was able to gain a wide range of experience, including working on the semiconductor manufacturing process from scratch, how to approach the business division with research results, and how to work together to create products, so the things I learned there are still useful in my current research.

After working for a company, you returned to academia. Was this the career path you had in mind from the beginning?

Hashimoto

Professor Ishii

I didn't think like that. I joined the company intending to work for a company for a long time, but of course a company has to bring products to market, so no matter how many interesting properties I found in my research, I was faced with the dilemma of not being able to continue research that didn't lead to product development. Research aimed at commercialization is a little different from research at a university. I wanted to pursue research into the unknown, so I decided to return to university.

It must have been difficult to make the career change from working in the company to returning to academia.

Hashimoto

Professor Ishii

During my time at the company, my only achievements were patents, and because of my research theme, I didn't have many opportunities to give presentations at academic conferences, so it was tough. I applied for an assistant professor position through a public recruitment, and was lucky enough to be hired as an assistant professor by Professor Miyasaka Tsutomu of Toin University of Yokohama. Professor Miyasaka had also done research in a company, and he welcomed me with the feeling that he would be very happy to accept someone with a track record in the company. However, since it was a fixed-term employment, I continued to look for the position I wanted and apply for public recruitments.

Have you ever wished you had stayed in academia instead of going into corporate work?

Hashimoto

Professor Ishii

Not at all. I am currently conducting basic research at a university, but I have a strong awareness that it must become a product or have some other shape in the future. Since it is not possible to commercialize something on one's own, I believe that my role is to promote the results of my basic research to companies and contribute to improving Japan's technological capabilities through joint research and industry-academia collaboration. I think that this awareness was cultivated thanks to the fact that I was engaged in development aimed at practical application at a company.


2nd TALK

"How can female researchers balance their careers with life events?"

Nowadays, there are many grant programs to help women balance childbirth/childcare with research, so
If you gather information properly, you'll be fine

I have just started job hunting, and the thing I am most worried about right now is whether I can balance my career with life events. When I looked into childcare leave systems, I found that there are companies that have created an easy-to-work environment, so I am currently thinking of working for a company, but I am also well aware of the appeal of doing research at a university, so I would like to consider that path as well. However, fixed-term employment seems like it would be difficult, and I cannot shake off my anxiety about my future.

Hashimoto

Professor Ishii

There are certainly such concerns. Compared to regular companies, employment is unstable, so in that sense it may be difficult. However, universities offer more flexibility in terms of working hours than companies, so it is easier to work while raising children. In my case, I sometimes take my children to university events, and now academic conferences have daycare centers so I can attend even with my children. Employment types are also changing little by little, and more and more universities are offering "tenure track systems" where you are employed for a fixed term, but if you pass the subsequent screening, you can become a lifetime employee. In addition, there are many grant systems that support the balance of childbirth and childcare and research. I also took maternity leave when I was working in the Miyasaka Laboratory as a JST Sakigake researcher, and Sakigake has a system to support life events, so I was able to extend my research period up to the amount of time I had interrupted. I think it will be fine if you collect information about such systems carefully.

You gave birth while you were working as an assistant professor in the Miyasaka Laboratory.

Hashimoto

Professor Ishii

My first child was in the Miyasaka Laboratory, and my second child was in the Hasegawa Laboratory. At the time, I was employed on a fixed-term basis, and although I was able to take maternity leave, I couldn't take childcare leave unless I had a certain amount of term left at the time of application. Now, the conditions have been relaxed, and it seems that it is becoming easier to take childcare leave even if you are employed on a fixed-term basis. In my case, I didn't take much childcare leave after giving birth, but everyone around me, including Professor Hasegawa and Professor Miyasaka, was understanding and cooperative, so I was able to balance work and childcare. I am very grateful for everyone's support.

With both childcare and research, it must have been a very busy time.

Hashimoto

Professor Ishii

Although there are many and many things I have to do, I've gotten better at managing my time since I started raising my child. I can switch my mind and concentrate on my work while my child is at daycare, and then when I get home I can play as hard as I can with my child. This way I can balance work and childcare, which is refreshing and fun.

I'm sure the students in the lab were inspired by seeing their professor devoting herself to research while raising a child.

Hashimoto

Professor Ishii

In fact, when I was at Aogaku, I also watched Professor Hasegawa juggle work with childbirth and childcare. I was a university student at the time, so it was my first time to see a working woman give birth and continue to work after giving birth. It was a great learning experience, and I followed Professor Hasegawa as a role model. Thanks to Professor Hasegawa, I didn't think it was unusual for a woman to do research while raising a child. Now, the environment is gradually improving, but I think it's because of the efforts made by the professors of Professor Hasegawa's generation. We need to carry on that tradition.

I sincerely hope that we can create a society where it is not unusual for female researchers to conduct research while raising children, like Professor Hasegawa and Professor Ishii.

Hashimoto


3rd TALK

What is something you should do while you are a student?

At the doctoral level, it is important to acquire in-depth specialized knowledge.
If you have a specialist qualification, you can use it wherever you go,
This will contribute to improving Japan's technological capabilities.

Professor Ishii, what is your current research topic?

Hashimoto

Professor Ishii

In our laboratory, we develop optoelectronic devices and nanomaterials that make it easier to use "invisible light" and "difficult-to-use light." There is a type of light that cannot be seen by the human eye, such as weak light, near-infrared light, and polarized light. As with the human eye, we can generally only use light in a limited range of the visible spectrum efficiently, but if we could convert near-infrared light into visible light, for example, we could effectively use light that could not be used in solar cells until now.

Perovskite solar cells, which are said to be the next generation of solar cells, are light and flexible and have excellent properties, but they are made of materials that cannot absorb near-infrared light. Therefore, we are working on developing new materials that can convert and utilize the unused light.

There is someone in my lab who is working on research related to perovskite solar cells, and from observing them closely, I feel that it is a difficult topic.

Hashimoto

Professor Ishii

Professor Miyasaka is a leading researcher in the field of perovskite solar cells. I started researching perovskites when I was in the Miyasaka Laboratory, but rather than doing research in the very heart of that field, I am currently researching how to improve their functionality while still taking advantage of their properties. For example, if we create a helical perovskite using organic compounds in a clever way, we can detect circularly polarized light, which is invisible to the naked eye. If we can create such an optical sensor, we will be able to capture and use previously invisible light information.

In order to create something new, I think it is necessary to change your perspective a little while still keeping to the traditional methods, but how can you come up with such an idea? I often find myself pondering over it without being able to come up with an idea.

Hashimoto

Professor Ishii

During the doctoral program, it is extremely important to acquire advanced expertise and deep knowledge. The reason is that if you try to tackle a wide variety of things at the doctoral program stage, your knowledge will become shallow. A doctorate is a qualification for specialists in a field, so if you obtain the qualification properly and then interact with people in different fields, you will be able to come up with ideas from a different perspective than those in that field. I am currently working on a large project with professors from various fields, and although our fields are completely different, such as organic synthesis, physics, and information optics, we are all specialists, so it is very fun to talk to them. I'm sure that Mr. Hashimoto's knowledge and experience are expanding rapidly right now, so you'll be fine. There is no need to worry about not being able to come up with ideas.

Thank you. Listening to your story, I have been really encouraged and realized that in the end, all you can do is to have a clear understanding of what you want to do and move forward with strength.

Hashimoto

Professor Ishii

Nowadays, companies need new things, and the demand for people with doctorates is increasing, which I think is a very good direction. Japan's biggest weakness is its lack of resources, so we need to create new value, and we need to be able to develop technology and manufacturing. I personally do research with the desire to improve Japan's technological capabilities, and I think it is very important to nurture students with high technical skills. In other words, I strongly want to contribute to improving Japan's technological capabilities through research and education. Like a "servant leader*" who embodies Aoyama 's school motto, "Salt of the earth, light of the world," I would like to continue to work hard to contribute to society as a researcher and educator. I'm sure that the high level of expertise and knowledge that Mr. Hashimoto has cultivated at Aogaku will be useful wherever he goes.

*A person who discovers his or her own mission, willingly serves people and society, and is guided by that way of life.

I'll do my best! I feel that you are full of vitality, Professor Ishii, but what is your driving force?

Hashimoto

Professor Ishii

It's the joy of discovering something unknown. I wouldn't trade that experience for anything else. Research is not a hobby, so it's important to have dreams and passion to pursue.

I imagine there are times during the doctoral program when you feel down, but Professor Ishii, were you able to stay positive and continue your research even during those times?

Hashimoto

Professor Ishii

I may have felt down at times, but there were few doctoral students around me, so I had to gather information myself to survive, and if there was something I wanted to know, I had to approach my professor myself. It felt like I was constantly training myself. In a lab with few people, it can be tough to be entrusted with a position of responsibility, but in the end, I think that experience helped me develop the ability to act proactively.

Professor Ishii, you always take a positive approach to any situation. I often get troubled by being influenced by the opinions of those around me.

Hashimoto

Professor Ishii

It's important to worry. Worrying is never a waste of time. Choosing a path without thinking is out of the question. No matter how difficult it may be, you should definitely worry. If you choose a path after worrying, you will never regret it. I want to tell students that even if you make a mistake, you can always start over. Your first job does not determine your future. For example, you can go back to school in your late 30s to get a doctorate, or you can switch from a research position to a position in the humanities. If you believe that you can always start over, I'm sure you will be able to make bold choices.

Thank you for your encouraging words. Thanks to your encouragement, I think I can do my best from now on. Thank you for today.

Hashimoto

After Interview

What hints did Mr. Hashimoto, who dreams of becoming a researcher, get from his conversation with Professor Ishii?

I want to find my own axis and choose my future path.

Talking with Professor Ishii gave me a lot of energy and made me want to continue to approach my research life in a positive way. In the future, I aim to be a researcher involved in cutting-edge materials science and condensed matter physics, but at the same time, I am thinking about how to work, such as balancing research with life events such as marriage and childbirth. Through this conversation, I was very impressed by how Professor Ishii has pursued his research with a positive attitude without giving up, making various choices toward his goal, and I realized that research requires unwavering determination and passion. I think he was able to pave his own path because he has his own unwavering axis. I often worry about things because I am influenced by the opinions of others, but I would like to think things through in my own way, clarify what I really want to do, and then embark on my life as a researcher.

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